1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,590 what's up everybody 2 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:07,430 it's tuesday 3 00:00:12,789 --> 00:00:09,519 night 4 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:12,799 we have two amazing guests 5 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:14,080 first 6 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:22,870 later at 9 pm central we have ross 7 00:00:27,509 --> 00:00:24,960 colehart 8 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:27,519 thanks for joining us 9 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:29,519 i hope this lives up to your 10 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:38,790 there's footage and records of 11 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:41,520 objects in the skies that we 12 00:00:44,830 --> 00:00:43,600 don't know exactly what they are we 13 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,840 can't explain 14 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:46,239 [Music] 15 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:48,000 how they moved 16 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:50,879 their trajectory uh there are moons of 17 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:53,520 other planets that we think there are 18 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:55,120 oceans 19 00:01:02,709 --> 00:01:00,239 there is very likely to be life 20 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:02,719 so seven decades after unidentified 21 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,400 aerial phenomena first appeared on the 22 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:06,479 radar defense ministries around the 23 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:08,000 world 24 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:09,920 what they are the recent report doesn't 25 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:12,240 require us to accept the reality of 26 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:14,880 alien visitation but it does require us 27 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:17,600 to take ufo seriously 28 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:19,280 therefore how seriously does her 29 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:22,159 majesty's government now take ufos in 30 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:25,200 the light of this report 31 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:27,040 i refer the noble lady to my previous 32 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:28,799 answers to which the short response is 33 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:29,970 very seriously 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:47,590 identifiable can be substantiated 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,630 there you go i love making those things 36 00:01:57,030 --> 00:01:54,550 unfortunately i always do it like last 37 00:02:01,270 --> 00:01:57,040 minute and i'm rushing to finish this up 38 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:02,069 but 39 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:03,439 you know it's always worth it i love 40 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:07,280 those things so how is everybody doing 41 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,879 christopher how are you thanks for 42 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:10,399 joining us 43 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:11,599 we have 44 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:13,840 spaghetti lee 45 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:16,959 uh roger renee james 46 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,440 surf psych what's up everybody thanks 47 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:21,760 for coming jd 48 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:25,520 um i think that we're gonna put 49 00:02:34,830 --> 00:02:33,430 i think we need some optimism in the ufo 50 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:34,840 twitter 51 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:37,920 realm and i have a feeling he can give 52 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:40,640 it to us toby what's up how are you so i 53 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:42,480 do have super chat and everything if you 54 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:44,080 want to ask a question i can't guarantee 55 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,560 you that i would ask it um 56 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:48,239 but you know super chat's your best 57 00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:49,200 chance 58 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:57,270 mr steve bassett 59 00:03:01,270 --> 00:02:58,879 how you doing today 60 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:01,280 i'm doing just great 61 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:03,840 just good birthday 62 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:05,200 a little what 63 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:08,000 busy a lot going on not going okay 64 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,760 anything you want to discuss you want to 65 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:12,000 get straight into it no you ask me all 66 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:20,390 i had a really any tough questions um 67 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:21,599 but you know 68 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:23,599 i just really wanted to get get you back 69 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:25,760 on it i feel like um 70 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:28,400 you uap news is kind of quiet you know 71 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:30,000 so that typically means stuff is 72 00:03:34,149 --> 00:03:32,640 happening in the background although 73 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:34,159 people have a hard time committing to 74 00:03:39,270 --> 00:03:35,920 that idea and kind of just fight each 75 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,280 other so i thought i'd bring you on 76 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:41,760 um maybe you can clue us in on the 77 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:44,400 happenings behind the scene and give us 78 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:49,509 yeah no no 79 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:51,920 yeah okay that works too all right 80 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:53,280 that's your smile for the day don't 81 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:55,519 expect anything else okay 82 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,560 all right 83 00:04:00,309 --> 00:03:58,560 fire away man let's let's let's get 84 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:00,319 rocking here sure so where are the 85 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:02,480 congressional hearings at 86 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:04,799 nowhere uh nowhere 87 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:06,799 yeah it's not it's not uh it's not our 88 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:08,000 fault 89 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:09,200 uh 90 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:16,400 poorly 91 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:19,040 if we'd handled the 1918 pandemic this 92 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:20,799 badly probably half the country would 93 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:21,840 have died 94 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:23,759 but uh what can i say 95 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:26,479 as a result uh that's delayed everything 96 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:28,240 you can't hold hearings of this 97 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:29,600 magnitude 98 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:30,639 uh 99 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:33,600 that's not gonna happen 100 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:34,960 sure you've got to be able to bring the 101 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:36,720 witnesses into dc 102 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:38,960 you want a audience of course 103 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:41,360 uh and you don't want to 104 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:44,000 yeah you want to have some normalcy 105 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:45,919 and we don't have that 106 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:46,800 so 107 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,000 minimum 108 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,400 i don't expect i would not i would not 109 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:52,960 expect any any congressional chair to 110 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:54,400 call for hearings for at least another 111 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:57,759 60 days we also have three major massive 112 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,360 bills these are not 113 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:01,520 typical bills that are going through 114 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,560 congress 115 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:04,400 uh one is doing well there's two more 116 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:05,440 behind that 117 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:08,639 that's going to take up 30 days easily 118 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,639 and so the timing of things has not been 119 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:12,720 ideal there was a time when it was very 120 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,120 good but before 121 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:17,520 before anybody could make a serious move 122 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:20,320 meaning shortly after the uh classified 123 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,320 report was delivered 124 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:24,400 to the uh the the four committees in the 125 00:05:29,909 --> 00:05:27,840 congress on june 16. 126 00:05:31,909 --> 00:05:29,919 they needed time to to examine it they 127 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,919 needed time to digest all that totally 128 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:33,440 understandable 129 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,840 25th the senate went into recess that's 130 00:05:38,950 --> 00:05:37,440 that was scheduled 131 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:38,960 so even if they had planned to do 132 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:40,880 something maybe in early july by early 133 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:42,080 july 134 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:43,919 as you know 135 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:46,160 the word was getting out uh oh we got a 136 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:47,120 problem 137 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:49,039 so 60 days 138 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:51,120 would be about the soonest i would 139 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:53,919 expect a major committee chair to say 140 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:55,680 let's begin hearings now 141 00:05:57,909 --> 00:05:56,800 okay 142 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:57,919 um 143 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,560 are have you heard of any chatter like 144 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,120 behind the scenes as far as what these 145 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:05,199 senators or congress people are saying 146 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:06,960 about this report at all 147 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,680 no 148 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:08,880 they're keeping their mouths closed 149 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:09,759 they're not they're not giving 150 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:10,720 interviews 151 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:13,360 the the press once the report the 20 152 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:16,319 the public report was issued in the 25th 153 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:17,360 the press 154 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,880 had covered everything right up to them 155 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,560 and then they just kind of stood down 156 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:22,240 there's there's issues there's articles 157 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:24,639 turning up but overall the major press 158 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:26,240 new york times washington post they just 159 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:27,600 kind of step back 160 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:31,759 uh because the story needs a new chapter 161 00:06:34,150 --> 00:06:32,800 and then of course you've got the 162 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,160 pandemic story and you've got the 163 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:36,160 political stories underway 164 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:38,800 so uh not surprisingly the members of 165 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,960 congress have simply they've stepped 166 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:42,479 back they're not talking about it there 167 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,720 was a leak that came out 168 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,800 uh toward the end of june 169 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:48,479 that may have been legitimate went to 170 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:50,000 richard dolan which is very interesting 171 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:51,440 i think we have talked about it on the 172 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:52,720 show i'm not sure 173 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:55,440 and uh andre carson kind of 174 00:07:00,150 --> 00:06:57,840 took a bold step forward and and 175 00:07:02,309 --> 00:07:00,160 announced uh he's a subcommittee chair 176 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,319 he's a powerful man that uh yeah we're 177 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:04,000 gonna hold hearings on this i think he 178 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:05,919 might have been a little bit of a skis 179 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,639 yeah but so there's that but overall no 180 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:10,880 uh we're not hearing any any nothing is 181 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,120 getting into the high end press or even 182 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:15,520 the lower empress 183 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,280 do you think there's any coordinated 184 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:19,199 effort for that or is it just strictly 185 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:22,560 coronavirus screwed everything up 186 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:23,919 you know 187 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:25,199 you don't coordinate much with the 188 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,880 senate the senators or even members of 189 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:28,080 congress frankly they have their 190 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:29,520 caucuses they do a little that but 191 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:31,759 overall they do their thing i assure you 192 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:33,120 if they wanted to speak up they would 193 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:35,120 but i think they they all pretty much 194 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:37,520 see the landscape they're smart they 195 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:38,960 understand the landscape right now and 196 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,880 this is not the time to go 197 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:42,240 to start actually 198 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:44,000 getting something going on hearings of 199 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,520 this magnitude these are not trivial 200 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:47,039 hearings right 201 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:49,120 so uh they just get it right that 202 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:50,240 doesn't mean that somebody couldn't say 203 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:51,520 something tomorrow they do anything they 204 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:53,360 want right but i don't think that will 205 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:54,800 happen i think you're going to see him 206 00:07:58,950 --> 00:07:57,120 generally focusing on these bills 207 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,960 and trying to assess the pandemic's 208 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,240 progress 209 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:02,479 over the next 30 days at least 210 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:04,000 and i think we're still going to be in 211 00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:05,840 deep trouble in 30 days 212 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:08,639 and so 60 days we might get over this 213 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:10,080 particular surge it depends on the 214 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:11,360 vaccination 215 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:17,919 and get up to a decent percentage 216 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:19,919 things could look optimistic in 60 days 217 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:20,800 we'll see 218 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:21,680 okay 219 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:24,720 um just for us will you just say things 220 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:33,269 a lot of people are coming off the fence 221 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:35,200 about the vaccination 222 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:37,760 they're seeing the children and the icus 223 00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:40,240 they're seeing children on ventilators 224 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,200 so 225 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:44,000 they're starting to realize maybe i need 226 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:44,959 to 227 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:47,360 go with the science and not with 228 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:49,519 facebook i hear you 229 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:51,120 um 230 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,880 so it's 231 00:08:58,230 --> 00:08:54,560 kind of a sit and wait game is there 232 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,240 anything we can do at this point to 233 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:59,920 push the ball forward 234 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:00,880 sure 235 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:03,600 i'm involved in a major project 236 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:05,760 a couple of significant projects i know 237 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:07,519 of other projects in the work i know of 238 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:08,959 a number of films that are coming out 239 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:10,320 later this year 240 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,120 you've got the four hours of uh ufo 241 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:15,839 series dropped that was put up on 242 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:18,959 a streaming uh showtime jj abrams bad 243 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:21,279 robot that's that's a list that's top of 244 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:22,000 the 245 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:23,680 list okay 246 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,040 and that that's a multi-million dollar 247 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:27,440 production millions of advertising 248 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:29,760 yeah right uh more money was spent on 249 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:32,640 the advertising on that documentary than 250 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:34,160 any other documentary in this field and 251 00:09:36,630 --> 00:09:35,839 probably any five documentaries in this 252 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:36,640 field 253 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:39,279 so you had that and netflix dropped a 254 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:42,000 six part series fairly comprehensive not 255 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:44,399 the production levels of bad robot but 256 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:47,839 certainly uh a decent series uh 257 00:09:51,269 --> 00:09:49,839 not just because i'm in most of them it 258 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:51,279 was a good series 259 00:09:54,389 --> 00:09:53,120 and and so how many million people are 260 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:54,399 watching those 261 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:55,440 millions 262 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:58,959 so it's not like things just stop 263 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:00,800 and i have another project that i'm 264 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:03,360 about to get into a third one 265 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:05,760 which could drop in october 266 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:07,040 so 267 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:09,760 believe me uh it's okay to take a couple 268 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:12,560 of months down and plus as we know the 269 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,000 uap blogs will never shut down right 270 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:19,200 they go on 24 7. right yeah 271 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:21,440 yeah they go on to 272 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,399 attack themselves basically yeah 273 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:25,920 well the blogs will keep everything 274 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:28,480 alive and that's fun 275 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:29,279 um 276 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:30,399 i have 277 00:10:33,829 --> 00:10:31,600 an interesting 278 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:33,839 interesting to me question i i just 279 00:10:36,949 --> 00:10:35,360 wrapped up reading uh john keele's 280 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:36,959 operation trojan horse and he had 281 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:38,240 mentioned 282 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:39,360 how 283 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:40,880 you know when he was writing that book 284 00:10:44,630 --> 00:10:43,360 there were the extraterrestrial folks 285 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:44,640 and they would fight the 286 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,480 interdimensional folks 287 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:48,560 basically and they wouldn't get anywhere 288 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:52,720 um do you notice that trend today 289 00:11:03,670 --> 00:10:56,640 with the community and maybe not those 290 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:05,030 let's put it this way 291 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:06,640 there's always going to be there's 292 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:09,200 resistance to the truth embargo amongst 293 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:10,720 the general population there's some 294 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:12,079 resistance certainly and there's a lot 295 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:13,440 of resistance within the military 296 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:16,160 intelligence complex that hasn't changed 297 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,240 but the the percentages have shifted 298 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:22,399 as you probably have noticed 299 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:24,160 all the hard debunkers are virtually 300 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:26,720 gone they don't even speak up 301 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,800 uh some of the mid-range people are 302 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:30,959 occasionally saying something 303 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:33,600 uh and then you're high-end skeptics 304 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:35,040 occasionally you're saying something but 305 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:36,640 they're getting a lot of flack back 306 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:38,399 every time they do it 307 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:40,160 so uh 308 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,240 the resistance 309 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:45,120 i won't say that resistance is futile 310 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:47,680 but it's getting to be 311 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:49,839 very ineffective 312 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:52,399 um and as i've said already on a number 313 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:54,959 of shows and we'll say again tonight 314 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:56,240 uh 315 00:12:00,949 --> 00:11:58,720 based on everything i've seen 316 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,959 it it appears to me that the the 317 00:12:04,629 --> 00:12:02,880 department of defense 318 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,639 officially i say 319 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:06,480 unofficially 320 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:08,160 but at the top level 321 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:10,320 agents sick death 322 00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:11,600 i believe they've thrown in the towel 323 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:13,839 they've accepted the fact that 324 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:16,240 we're now moving towards disclosure and 325 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:18,000 and they've chosen to strategically 326 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:19,600 participate 327 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:20,639 to 328 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:21,440 uh 329 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,320 not 330 00:12:26,949 --> 00:12:24,720 do anything that's going to 331 00:12:28,389 --> 00:12:26,959 embarrass them at the very end like 332 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:28,399 somebody that's finished 333 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:29,279 you know 334 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:30,720 i've seen you actually seen this happen 335 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:32,320 they're approaching the finish line of a 336 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,240 long marathon or a triathlon and they 337 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:36,480 just fall flat on their face right 338 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:38,560 uh they don't want to do that i believe 339 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:40,560 they throw it in the toe which 340 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:42,959 means the end can't be that far away 341 00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:45,600 yeah i would imagine so um 342 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:47,839 do you what's what's your theory or what 343 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:50,399 do you say as far as uh the secrecy for 344 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:51,519 so long 345 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:53,440 um i was just going through a document 346 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:55,920 the other day put together by osi was 347 00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:59,360 osi briefing right after washington dc 348 00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:01,440 and they're talking about 349 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:04,639 uh something getting clocked at 17 000 350 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:07,680 miles per hour at white sands like 351 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:09,600 how did they hang on to that secrecy for 352 00:13:13,829 --> 00:13:11,680 so long and why 353 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:13,839 first of all it's not a secret 354 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:16,320 yeah there are secrets in the regarding 355 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:19,120 the uap issue in government yes 356 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,560 but the actual 357 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:23,360 reality of et's is hardly a secret 358 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:24,160 right 359 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:26,160 they do everything but show up at the 360 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:28,399 supermarket shopping for 361 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:29,600 you know 362 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:31,360 for goods uh 363 00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:33,440 so no it's not a secret it's an embargo 364 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,959 it's a truth embargo that's the term 365 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:37,200 that i came up with very early on that's 366 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:40,720 good uh to replace uh ufo cover up and 367 00:13:45,829 --> 00:13:42,000 it's 368 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:45,839 hear your cover up nearly as much 369 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:47,440 because it's not a cover-up really it's 370 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:49,279 an embargo and it's not illegal it's 371 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,760 national security policy 372 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:53,839 why did it last 75 years because it 373 00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:55,760 served 374 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:58,240 by and large the state 375 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:59,600 in this case certainly the military 376 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:01,199 intelligence complex because the 377 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:02,880 congress and the presidency the 378 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:04,959 executive were somewhat pushed aside on 379 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:06,240 this so serving the military 380 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,639 intelligence complex 381 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:10,800 uh for that length of time 382 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,800 or it either served them to have an 383 00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:14,160 embargo 384 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:16,959 or it served them not to end it because 385 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:19,120 of the various public relations issues 386 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:21,440 and whatever would come about 387 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,160 nothing unusual about that segregation 388 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:25,680 warfare 389 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:28,079 yeah segregation lasted in the south why 390 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:31,519 did it last so long because it served 391 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:33,040 the governing authorities in the 392 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:34,480 southern states 393 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,519 yeah 394 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:37,440 until it ended 395 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:39,519 yeah now did that mean that it didn't it 396 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,560 wouldn't have served them anymore 397 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:45,040 uh no if it if if the civil rights act 398 00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:46,639 hadn't been passed and segregation 399 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,760 remained in the states it would have 400 00:14:51,189 --> 00:14:49,279 continued to serve 401 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:51,199 uh a certain segment of the political 402 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:53,680 class in the southern states 403 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:55,920 uh but the reason it lasted as long as 404 00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:57,760 it did is because it did serve them 405 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:01,199 until it was ended by force measure 406 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:02,720 that's what's going to happen here now 407 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:04,480 the force measure 408 00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:06,959 is not going to be a a law passed by 409 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:08,880 congress which is really what ended the 410 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:11,279 civil rights uh ended the segregation 411 00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:12,720 era itself 412 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:15,199 uh it's going to be a actual a more 413 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:17,040 elaborate process involving the public 414 00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:18,720 involving the congress 415 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:21,199 journalists and so forth not in law 416 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:22,720 you're not going to see 417 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,120 the congress pass a law saying that 418 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:27,040 there's extraterrestrials here what kind 419 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:28,320 of law 420 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:29,920 is going to do a lot it will give the 421 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:32,560 president the opportunity to make that 422 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,920 statement which is in fact the 423 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:35,519 president's program 424 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:37,600 right yeah you were here last time and 425 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:40,320 you're really specific about that it's 426 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:43,680 not congress's job it's you know it's 427 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:45,199 the president's 428 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,000 job 429 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:47,759 uh to inform us on this and we had 430 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:48,959 talked about 431 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,480 how the tsa and how that started was in 432 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:54,240 the whole plan i guess i should say 433 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:55,680 disclosure plan 434 00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:58,399 uh was based off of hillary clinton and 435 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,079 clinton winning the election and that 436 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:02,240 didn't happen it was it was i believe 437 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:04,240 that factored into the decision to do it 438 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,600 uh 439 00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:07,120 so it 440 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:08,639 what would they have done it would they 441 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:10,560 have tried to put that project together 442 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:12,800 if she wasn't running say it was uh 443 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,959 another democratic candidate yeah we'll 444 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:16,160 never know 445 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:20,480 that she was a candidate and i believe 446 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,079 now they haven't spoken to that and i 447 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,399 don't expect them to speak to it until 448 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,399 after disclosure when i think 449 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:28,880 uh everyone in the ttsa will will be 450 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:30,880 open to talking to the media 451 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,880 more in depth about all of this because 452 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:34,800 i i think they they're proud of it i 453 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:35,920 think they're very proud of their role 454 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:37,440 they played and and i think they want 455 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:41,120 history to know about it but not 456 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:42,560 yeah they should be 457 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,360 i was just going to say i think um just 458 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:47,759 being an observer of this whole thing 459 00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:50,720 looking back at what happened 460 00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,560 decades ago and what's happening now 461 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:54,720 it's pretty clear that uh things have 462 00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:56,320 haven't come this far 463 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:57,680 uh ever 464 00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,560 and 465 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,240 a lot of that has to do with tom delonge 466 00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:02,560 and tedious or beyond it's just nowadays 467 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:04,079 yeah we're beyond any place we've been 468 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:04,959 before 469 00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:05,600 yeah 470 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:07,280 the closest we came to disclosure prior 471 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,439 to this was roswell and that wasn't 472 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,760 a public uh thing 473 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:13,760 well it was but i mean it wasn't it was 474 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,959 just it was just circumstantial right 475 00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:18,880 they had a limited amount of time to 476 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,439 retract that story right before the 477 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,280 media got there 478 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:25,280 and fortunately for them 479 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:26,959 everything was slower 480 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:28,480 and here we are 481 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,640 and so they were able to retract it and 482 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:32,720 now it's taking 75 years to do what 483 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,280 could have happened 75 years that damn 484 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:37,760 guy with the screw up telling him flying 485 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:39,840 sauce 486 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,799 later 487 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,400 it's gerber's fault i mean he's the one 488 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:43,840 ravi did not 489 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,480 do that press conference with uh with 490 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,880 jesse marcel senior on his own authority 491 00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:50,720 i assure you that was a truman decision 492 00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:53,360 asking him by facts or whatever the hell 493 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,520 they were using back then uh and he did 494 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,600 it and they did it fast and boom but we 495 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:59,360 came that close 496 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:01,440 and i i'd love to have a more an 497 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,760 extensive kind i'd love to go get up on 498 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,240 a college campus stage uh or college 499 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:08,720 auditorium stage maybe with one of the 500 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,160 history professors 501 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:12,640 and just spitball about 502 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:16,000 how the 20th century might have gone 503 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,880 if if if truman had been uh 504 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:21,120 off somewhere and unavailable and remy 505 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:23,360 couldn't act and and by the time they 506 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,480 could get their press conference 507 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,720 together maybe another 48 hours the 508 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:28,240 press was all over town interviewing 509 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:30,960 people what a great idea yeah and what 510 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:32,960 would the 20th century be like there 511 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:34,559 it's all kinds of fascinating 512 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:36,240 possibilities there well 513 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:37,919 but maybe one day we'll have i'll have 514 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,679 that chat with someone yeah we'll have 515 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:41,200 to make a movie 516 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,400 minor 517 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:44,320 that's it yeah 518 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,360 um 519 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:47,679 so the there's something that came out 520 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,559 recently about 521 00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:52,400 the space force possibly getting 522 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:53,840 involved 523 00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:55,600 in this investigation do you know 524 00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,230 well 525 00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:02,240 it wouldn't surprise me if somebody in 526 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:04,080 the space force didn't raise the idea 527 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:05,039 that 528 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:07,280 maybe we could be involved 529 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,679 the space force is a 530 00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:11,520 awkward entity 531 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:13,039 um 532 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:15,120 and probably if i were the space force 533 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:16,880 i'd keep a low profile right now and 534 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:19,760 just let other people do this 535 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:20,720 um 536 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,350 meaning you have a militaristic capacity 537 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:41,360 military capacity to go up and 538 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:44,240 shoot things uh i guess 539 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,600 i assume that they're talking about 540 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,200 satellites 541 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:48,960 uh okay 542 00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:51,919 but you realize if we had a a satellite 543 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:54,080 war where we were taking out satellites 544 00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,200 and our enemies were taking out 545 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,520 satellites it's over yeah we realized 546 00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:59,200 we'd have to blow anything up down here 547 00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:00,880 it would just all go to hell without any 548 00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:02,799 explosions down below 549 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:05,360 so i'm not sure where that's going 550 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,480 uh or is it against the ets is that 551 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:10,320 really what was behind the space force 552 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:12,400 or because if it's against the ets 553 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,760 that's not going to work out because we 554 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,840 haven't got a chance against them i 555 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:17,840 don't care how much force we put in the 556 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,679 space force how much money we spend and 557 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,360 i assure you there are plenty of people 558 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,960 who would love to spend lots of money on 559 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:28,789 uh so or is it just a political maneuver 560 00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,080 a shiny object oh why did this i created 561 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,679 the space force uh so i'm not you know i 562 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,960 don't really give a damn whether the 563 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,880 space force investigates it or not 564 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:41,280 really but frankly they would be very 565 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,360 wise to just keep out of this 566 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,280 because i know anything they do is 567 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,600 probably not going to work out too well 568 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:50,400 um got a question here from megan if you 569 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:53,120 don't mind she is fantastic she's a 570 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:54,640 great friend of the show 571 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,600 um any thoughts on the new bill you 572 00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,600 covered scope an assignment of 573 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:01,679 responsibilities is there an army and 574 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:04,720 navy conflict in play is ross cole hart 575 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:09,600 speculated i know i did i have no idea 576 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,240 by and large for most of the last 75 577 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,960 years the various services were working 578 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,120 very hard did not deal with it at all 579 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:18,880 so if there was a competition it was on 580 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,720 who could hide the most right who could 581 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:23,360 who could who could use the scarcer the 582 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,960 most okay 583 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,120 the air force got dragged into this 584 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,960 early and so it's got all this history 585 00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:30,640 and finally it was able to get out from 586 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,799 under it in 69 after really 587 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:37,280 embarrassing itself got dragged back in 588 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:40,480 back into it uh in the 90s 589 00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:42,960 uh embarrassed it up again 590 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,919 uh so um 591 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,480 so if it if it is learned 592 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:50,240 by some of the more 593 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,880 astute aggressive white uh pentagon 594 00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,640 correspondents 595 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,799 that the navy the air force in the army 596 00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,400 are trying to compete with each other to 597 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:00,400 see who can get the most stuff out and 598 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:04,000 be the most helpful to this process 599 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,799 hey 600 00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,400 works for me yeah that would be 601 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,240 fantastic 602 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,039 let them compete for who is going to be 603 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:12,640 who's going to tell the most truth the 604 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,840 fastest 605 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,840 yeah that would be a good idea i highly 606 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,679 recommend that 607 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:19,919 i'm okay i can back that too that'd be 608 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,360 fantastic yeah sure yeah and i think 609 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,200 it's clear too throughout these decades 610 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,200 there are so many different like um 611 00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,200 little departments here and there that's 612 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:31,120 been looking at this stuff 613 00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,559 uh for a long time you know so 614 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,039 i'm sure people have their hands on this 615 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:40,080 in different ways at uh to some extent 616 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,840 um 617 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:42,640 so 618 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:45,600 now you i saw that to you i'm on your uh 619 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:48,080 newsletter list apparently so 620 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,960 i 621 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,840 yeah 622 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,520 you you're not supposed to be on the 623 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:52,880 newsletter with this i mean i'm just 624 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,280 kidding 625 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,919 no i just got one so uh today i haven't 626 00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:59,200 heard one in a while and you may have 627 00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,840 been out okay you know uh you you've 628 00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:03,919 been off it until just recently but that 629 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:06,799 wasn't intentional i think that i i 630 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,320 i put them on when i get them 631 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:12,640 that's okay um no what i wanted to ask 632 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:15,280 you is the new developments and plans 633 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:20,789 um 634 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,600 i have some new developments 635 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,280 now i don't want you to take this the 636 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,480 wrong way 637 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:28,080 sean 638 00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:29,919 ryan's you're a good guy 639 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,240 i respect you and i expect your show 640 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,240 but as it happens 641 00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:35,760 i'm gonna be making an announcement of 642 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,039 prg's new plans a little later today 643 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:41,279 on jimmy church 644 00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,080 yeah 645 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,559 and that's kind of a done deal right so 646 00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,200 i'm afraid i okay i can tip your 647 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,200 audience off that i'm going to tip his 648 00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,159 audience off uh about some of prg's 649 00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,919 future plans which are 650 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:55,520 i can't 651 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,440 jimmy i cannot get into a lot i can 652 00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,440 basically give some basics more will 653 00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,159 come later it's a pretty big deal so 654 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,039 yeah um yeah i think after your show was 655 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,520 over i i encourage some people political 656 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:12,000 pack over to fate and black it doesn't 657 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,760 overlap i don't think 658 00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:15,760 and uh catch me 659 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,640 next 660 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,520 i'm just kidding that's okay uh just 661 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:22,240 remind jimmy if if he can do this i'll 662 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:23,600 call it even 663 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,320 uh when you see him go yeah i was just 664 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,720 talking to sean from witness citizen the 665 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,039 guy that got the scoop on the 23-minute 666 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,360 video from elizondo that you didn't get 667 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,520 if you say that it's all good okay now 668 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,600 you're you're you're quite sure you've 669 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,400 got a scoop on that right you got it 670 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,400 oh positively 671 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,880 okay our toy with this possibility yeah 672 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,960 yeah he was pretty pissed about it but 673 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,720 he didn't mention me at all you know 674 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,400 look i think all the podcasts would be 675 00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:53,039 all part of the universe 676 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,799 i got lucky 677 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,559 so um 678 00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:58,240 yeah so i'm excited to hear that so if 679 00:25:03,029 --> 00:24:59,760 you guys want to hear more about uh 680 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,039 paradigm in the future for paradigm 681 00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,400 um you can tune into jimmy church later 682 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:08,960 to hear about that 7 p.m 683 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,159 7 p.m and it seems like it 684 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,320 could work out possibly to come back 685 00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:16,240 here for ross afterwards but although 686 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:19,039 that's a lot of ufo stuff 687 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,480 how like does your show go um i do all 688 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:24,960 different types of stuff for for you and 689 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,159 ross i'm doing night shows to you know 690 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:30,400 just kind of accommodate of course 691 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,279 otherwise 692 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,400 early afternoon we are live correct yeah 693 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,520 yeah and ross is at nine so okay so ross 694 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,799 is at nine 695 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:40,960 and you'll probably do an hour with ross 696 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:43,919 yeah okay so boom boom boom people have 697 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,760 got it from from from uh 4 30 698 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,600 all the way to 699 00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:51,200 uh 700 00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,400 maybe 701 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,120 nothing but ui back i'm telling you it's 702 00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:56,960 only a matter of time before you can get 703 00:26:02,310 --> 00:25:59,919 up in the morning at like 6 a.m 704 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,320 go to your open your computer up 705 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:04,400 have everything scheduled and watch 706 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,960 nothing but uap et uh podcasts all day 707 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,440 long just the whole day all the way to 708 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,600 three in the morning right it's only one 709 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,320 time before that's possible 710 00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,720 yeah that's true and i mean uh grant 711 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,320 cameron was on here not too long ago and 712 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:21,919 i really appreciated the way he looked 713 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,520 at uh disclosure uh mentioning 714 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,120 the more you mention it the more people 715 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,760 are talking about it the bigger it gets 716 00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,679 it just then happens 717 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,159 you know that's activism my friend if 718 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:35,840 you want if you want something to happen 719 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,240 you need to mention it all the time 720 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,240 right all the time it's not like you 721 00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,080 just put up a statement we need to do 722 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,159 this and then go off and wait for people 723 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:46,320 to line up behind it oh no you mentioned 724 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,520 it mentioned it mentioned it's called a 725 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,120 presumptive close 726 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,120 and sale i know about that yeah yeah 727 00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:53,919 i've been i was in sales for a while 728 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,480 yeah me too the productive close is 729 00:27:03,350 --> 00:26:59,200 simply this you conduct yourself and 730 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,360 talk to people as if it is a done deal 731 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,400 and it turns out that when you do that 732 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,640 it becomes a done deal 733 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,080 right now you may see this as 734 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,520 manipulative 735 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,960 it's a little bit 736 00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,360 but it is it is uh 737 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,679 fundamentally a basis of human nature 738 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,640 and it's how people do live their lives 739 00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,000 in other words 740 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,399 if you hear about positive thinking 741 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,120 meaning if you want to go to college 742 00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,799 while you're in high school you think 743 00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,399 positively about i'm going to college 744 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:31,520 i'm going to college i'm going to 745 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,360 college and if you do that your chances 746 00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,279 of going are a hell of a lot better 747 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,960 that's okay so there's nothing wrong 748 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,880 with that i'm saying if you want 749 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:40,240 disclosure then you've got to think 750 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:41,440 disclosure is going to happen it's 751 00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,640 definitely going to happen it's going to 752 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,919 happen it's going to happen and guess 753 00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,240 what it happens because we're dealing 754 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,240 with human nature not only in a single 755 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,039 person but in millions of people 756 00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,360 all activists operate this way 757 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,720 you don't want to go too far you don't 758 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,279 want to become clawing you want to 759 00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:58,960 you want to be reasonable about it but 760 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:01,600 you never give up the idea 761 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,880 that oh this is going to happen and in 762 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:06,480 most cases 763 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,080 it always does if you are talking about 764 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,399 righteous goals in other words it's the 765 00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,720 classic line of king the moral arc of 766 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:17,120 the universe is long but it bends toward 767 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,159 justice 768 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,600 so if 769 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,600 if it is justice you're seeking if it's 770 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,120 the truth you're seeking 771 00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,200 the ark is going to come it's just a 772 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:27,679 question of how long and anything you 773 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,760 can do to bend that ark a little bit get 774 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:30,960 it sooner 775 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,559 you do it yeah no i'm i totally agree 776 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:36,080 with you it's the power of positive 777 00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:37,600 thinking and that's why i hate to see 778 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,799 when people are fighting right now 779 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,039 because we could be using that to propel 780 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,919 this disclosure movement this down time 781 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:45,360 isn't a time 782 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:49,200 for losing sight of reality and how 783 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:50,320 close it is 784 00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,120 what it's time for is recouping 785 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:54,480 reloading 786 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,360 you know 787 00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,360 getting ready for the next push because 788 00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,120 there's going to be one and if we're 789 00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:01,200 down and pessimistic we're not going to 790 00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,559 do very well 791 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,399 so 792 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,760 you're always going to have push back 793 00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,679 you don't don't worry about it i would 794 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,679 much rather have people 795 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,679 engaged and aware of what's going on and 796 00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,760 arguing in opposition they're not paying 797 00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,679 attention at all simply not caring 798 00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,399 anything at all because that they're 799 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,159 and when they debate it they're bringing 800 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,640 the issue up aren't they yeah so i don't 801 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,240 i don't mind it that much if it becomes 802 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,320 overwhelming well yeah it can undermine 803 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,480 but no no no it's okay it's okay to 804 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,480 disagree it's okay to say hey disclosure 805 00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,840 i've had plenty of people tell me 806 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,640 disclosure's never gonna happen yeah 807 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,720 that's fine but they they said 808 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:38,399 disclosure didn't they they used the 809 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:39,360 word 810 00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,630 that's not going to happen right 811 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,720 i'm telling you these this is the art of 812 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,240 activism folks 813 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:50,240 listen carefully one day you can get in 814 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,840 a lot of trouble like i 815 00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,919 have i think you're doing fantastic 816 00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,120 by the way 817 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,149 that way some days it does yeah i know 818 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,840 but you've been at this for a while and 819 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,399 you put a lot of hard work into it and i 820 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:08,080 think it will you know if it wasn't for 821 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,880 you 822 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,880 uh we'd probably be even more in the 823 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,760 dark 824 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,440 especially with the political side of 825 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,720 this so 826 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,880 um you know speaking for everybody else 827 00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,559 we're really appreciative of that you've 828 00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:20,320 taken the time to tell us what's going 829 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,840 on so you can say the same thing about 830 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,919 many many of my colleagues i assure you 831 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,240 i there's this is a very large 832 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,960 uh process with a lot of people involved 833 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,520 and in various ways almost every aspect 834 00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:33,279 whether it's journalism research 835 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,559 activism 836 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,399 film production all that kind of stuff 837 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,799 yeah the the disclosure activist 838 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:40,880 movement is substantial 839 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,679 and talented uh always underfunded if 840 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,919 we've gotten a lot of money tell me we 841 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:47,440 could have wrapped this up sooner if 842 00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,840 yuri milner that very wealthy russian 843 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,279 who decide to give a hundred million 844 00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:53,120 dollars to the disclosure activist 845 00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,000 movement instead of to seti to look for 846 00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:58,399 radio signals in the sky which 847 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,760 apparently just start coming through 848 00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,240 we would have been further along now but 849 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,159 yuri was sold a bill of goods he bought 850 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:08,080 it and well apparently he could afford 851 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:09,519 to lose the money so he threw it down 852 00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,559 the toilet 853 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:12,720 well that's unfortunate 854 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:13,679 um 855 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,240 think they're just et's or do you have a 856 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:22,480 hunch on do we got interdimensional 857 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:25,600 going to or are there more than two 858 00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:28,000 things three four five six seven what 859 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:33,750 if i were to then i don't go to him but 860 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,840 let's say that i got dragged to a new 861 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:37,840 york grave 862 00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,440 one day and i'm down there and people 863 00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:41,440 are an incredible makeup and these crazy 864 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,799 outfits and they're walking around 865 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,480 semi-stoned and 866 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,480 uh so forth i i could be asked the 867 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,720 question steve is people at this rate 868 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:50,000 pretty strange yeah they're pretty 869 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,600 strange what do you think you think 870 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:53,120 they're just regular humans or do you 871 00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:54,880 think they're interdimensionals 872 00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,679 uh they could be interdimensionals but 873 00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:59,200 i'm just going to go with you 874 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,279 with just regular humans right because 875 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,840 the odds extremely favor 876 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,279 that basic 877 00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,320 uh and a simple explanation it's the 878 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:10,159 same thing with ets 879 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,600 um 880 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:13,039 they could be interventionals they could 881 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,000 be time travelers they could be 882 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,799 holograms being 883 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:21,360 projected from a higher power whatever 884 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,240 the hell 885 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:25,120 but the overwhelming odds is that our 886 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:26,559 evolved 887 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,919 sentient beings who are based at another 888 00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,440 planet 889 00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,279 the odds are overwhelming that that's 890 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,600 where they are and so i just don't need 891 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,919 to go anywhere else until somebody 892 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,600 proves to me there's they're not just 893 00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:41,519 from another planet 894 00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:43,519 i don't need to waste any time 895 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,399 yeah 896 00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,480 um what planet 897 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,320 pick one anyone doesn't matter whatever 898 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,480 planet it is there are several 100 899 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,240 million of them i'm talking earth-like 900 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:53,600 planets out there 901 00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,399 so 902 00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,159 who knows only a few hundred million 903 00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:58,159 it's not it's not it's not a lot that's 904 00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,039 not 905 00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,279 a million yeah you know 906 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,799 you know and none of them actually got 907 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:04,960 the life it just it didn't work out you 908 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:05,840 know 909 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,320 only here right yeah i thought we were 910 00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,399 special yeah 911 00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,840 i'll tell you there's a whole lot of 912 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:13,039 people 913 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:15,039 you see there was a time before the 914 00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,640 internet when you could say anything 915 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,080 about this issue i mean you could come 916 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:19,840 up with any cockamamie explanation 917 00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,640 debunk whatever and it was printed out 918 00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:24,159 on some newsletter 919 00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:25,039 on a 920 00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,480 machine what they call one of those 921 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,600 machines 922 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,720 uh 923 00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,559 or it was printed in a newspaper that 924 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:32,960 got thrown out the next day 925 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:35,840 uh what have you or if you were really 926 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,279 you might write a book 927 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,600 that would disappear because nobody it 928 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,279 would just be gone 929 00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,240 since 1995 930 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,559 all pretty much everything anybody in 931 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:48,960 the public arena has said 932 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:51,760 about how this issue is bogus how it's 933 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,320 not real how we're the only life in the 934 00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:56,480 universe wherever the hell 935 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:57,279 well 936 00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,120 it's still there 937 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:01,919 and so soon they're going to have to go 938 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,960 back and kind of deal with this some of 939 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,640 them will try to expunge i don't know 940 00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,960 they'll they'll claim to be a a teenager 941 00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,119 and and try to get facebook to expunge 942 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,000 all their earlier posts which 943 00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:16,320 that's not going to work twit tweeters 944 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,679 all that kind of stuff 945 00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,359 uh they're they're literally going to 946 00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:21,280 have to answer for every stupid thing 947 00:34:24,909 --> 00:34:22,720 they've ever said about this issue and 948 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,919 i'm talking about physicists 949 00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,599 astrophysicists other college professors 950 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:29,440 top journalists pulitzer prize winners 951 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,720 all of them 952 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,399 are going to have an issue because 953 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:34,960 people are going to point out you 954 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,159 you said this back in 1998 really you 955 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:42,389 why didn't you get what was going on i 956 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:43,359 mean what 957 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,480 uh were you 958 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:45,679 how do you account for it oh i just 959 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,159 didn't know i'm sorry i didn't get it 960 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,320 hey but you know you've got two phds in 961 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,800 physics yeah you get it right you have 962 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,320 no nobody told you 963 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:56,320 you can't really read stanton friedman's 964 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:57,520 books i mean what 965 00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,320 so 966 00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,880 it's going to be interesting uh 967 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,079 and you didn't have to be so 968 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,079 condescending either you know that's the 969 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,320 thing you cannot you know 970 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,240 no not you the 971 00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,400 the the scientists yeah 972 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,079 oh oh 973 00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:13,680 yeah yeah 974 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,880 now am i going to be condescending 975 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,920 um 976 00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,520 i'll tell you what 977 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:20,960 i'm going to be condescending in a 978 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,880 general sense like this because i am 979 00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:24,960 being condescending right now but i'm 980 00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,839 not going to do it in person 981 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,359 i'm not going to move your face and be 982 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,200 condescending i'm just gonna be 983 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:33,599 generally condescending 984 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,710 general condescension 985 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,390 oh yeah that's gc yep yeah pc 986 00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,880 [Laughter] 987 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:48,400 yeah yeah 988 00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:49,280 so 989 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,079 um i appreciate you bringing your gc 990 00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:54,240 here to this show because it does make 991 00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,390 so 992 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,240 what is there anything 993 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,640 that we should know what should we know 994 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,359 you know there's there's a lot happening 995 00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,200 and these podcasters and the people 996 00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:08,960 doing the interviews they do their best 997 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,599 to to get out what the most important 998 00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,760 stuff is but sometimes we miss stuff 999 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,160 and you don't get that answer if you 1000 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:19,440 don't ask so i'm asking you okay tell me 1001 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,400 yeah 1002 00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,560 without me asking here's what they need 1003 00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:23,839 to know 1004 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,800 well i'll tell you some things you need 1005 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:26,800 to know but first they need to know this 1006 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:29,920 my website is paradigmresearchgroup.org 1007 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,079 and you got to know how to spell paragon 1008 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,839 a lot of people can't 1009 00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,280 uh but it's a really it's gonna be a big 1010 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:37,520 word this century all right 1011 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,839 so go to 1012 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,880 paradigmresearchgroup.org go go over in 1013 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:42,240 the right to 1014 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,200 resources go down to print media archive 1015 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,640 click on that click through the flash 1016 00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,880 page and get to the archive 1017 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,480 now when you get there 1018 00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,160 what you're going to find 1019 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,520 is 12 000 1020 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,839 links to links to 12 000 1021 00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,000 news print media articles 1022 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,800 uh mainstream mainstream not not fringe 1023 00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:02,640 stuff not paranormal 1024 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:06,079 uh but focus on the last four years 1025 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,160 started october the 10th of 2017 1026 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,760 okay and where you'll see the first two 1027 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,560 articles regarding the ttsa which 1028 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,560 launched the next day 1029 00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:18,240 and those two articles are earmarked and 1030 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:19,599 read 1031 00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,280 forward in time 1032 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,200 to the present day 1033 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,359 and you will have about 1 000 articles 1034 00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:29,200 that you can read that are earmarked and 1035 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,320 read 1036 00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,119 about the ttsa the people in it uh 1037 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,640 things that develop 1038 00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:36,000 from the new york times articles and 1039 00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,079 everything else it just unfolded so it's 1040 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:40,160 like an expanding cone 1041 00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,760 one thousand articles and when you 1042 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,320 finish reading all 1 000 of us articles 1043 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:46,079 you will know more 1044 00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,040 than 99.9 1045 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,440 on this subject in the america on on 1046 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,720 what's happened in the last four years 1047 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,960 the nine of the people in the country 1048 00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:57,119 now after you get that take about three 1049 00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:58,400 to four days 1050 00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,920 uh you go to over two uh issues 1051 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:03,680 in the menu come on down 1052 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:05,920 you want me to screen share it 1053 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,880 do whatever you want ttsa 1054 00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,040 and then slide over to 1055 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:13,040 ttsa media 1056 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,160 click on that 1057 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:16,400 and you'll go to a media page 1058 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,599 okay that has about right now it has 160 1059 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,160 video clips some 1060 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,800 video clips of a presentation by melon 1061 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,200 elizondo and others as well as news 1062 00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,960 interviews of them and news clips and so 1063 00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:31,280 forth 160 video clips 1064 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,640 uh and and i need to put up 50 more 1065 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:37,040 that i've gotten behind on so soon it'll 1066 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,400 be 200. 1067 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,839 watch them all 1068 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,000 and when and he's again in chronological 1069 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,240 order okay in this case i have to 1070 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:46,079 reverse you start at the top and you 1071 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,760 just keep looking as you go down to the 1072 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,680 bottom and when you have watched every 1073 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:52,240 one of those you will know more about 1074 00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,599 what's happened in the last four years 1075 00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,920 than 99.99 1076 00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,599 of the people in the country and 1077 00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,200 therefore anybody asks you what's going 1078 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,200 on you're going to say i know 1079 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:03,760 that's what you need to do if you really 1080 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:06,560 want to know grabbing a little a tidbit 1081 00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,480 from this podcast that podcast whatever 1082 00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,839 you're not going to get this picture 1083 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,800 because what's going on is big 1084 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,640 like the civil war you know civil war 1085 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,640 was big so like trying to keep up with 1086 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,160 it was really hard back then not to 1087 00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,400 mention there was no internet uh but 1088 00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,079 this is big too if you want to keep up 1089 00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,920 with this history of this level you're 1090 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,520 just not going to keep up by i don't 1091 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,760 know checking in once in a while 1092 00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,160 no no no so that's the first thing i'll 1093 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,160 tell you the second third thing second 1094 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,079 thing third thing 1095 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,560 you got to keep these things in mind 1096 00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,359 whatever you read here 1097 00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,240 uh and view on this on this subject 1098 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,000 first of all and you're trying to 1099 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:48,079 understand it in other words 1100 00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,920 why did they say that what does it mean 1101 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,440 does it make sense why does it make 1102 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,160 sense et cetera et cetera et cetera 1103 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,680 i've said this a thousand times but i 1104 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,960 love saying it and i'll say it a 1105 00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,040 thousand more 1106 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,119 the united states government 1107 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,040 meaning those who have a need to know on 1108 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,400 the subject 1109 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:06,160 as well of a lot of other people inside 1110 00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,599 the government figured it out on their 1111 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,200 own or were tipped off you know one of 1112 00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,480 this you know 1113 00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,319 nudge nudge 1114 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,920 has known about the extraterrestrial 1115 00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:16,000 presence since 1947. 1116 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,119 yeah 1117 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,800 at 74 years it's a long time okay 1947. 1118 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,720 74 years 1119 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,440 people in our government need to know 1120 00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,000 not a massive number probably varies but 1121 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,599 you know so in a sense the government 1122 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:31,440 knows if you talk to the right person 1123 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,240 about the et presence for 74 years 1124 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,240 two the government has been studying 1125 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,200 every aspect of that phenomena 1126 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:43,680 under classified programs 1127 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,960 for 74 years everything they can find if 1128 00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:48,800 they if they've got crash vehicles which 1129 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,319 they do uh re-engineering research study 1130 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,720 for 74 years they've never taken a year 1131 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,680 off 1132 00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,200 they never said look you know we're 1133 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,960 learning some things about the tech but 1134 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,560 let's take four or five years off just 1135 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,400 don't hurry no 1136 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,040 they've been studying it religiously for 1137 00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,280 74 years so when they talk about the 1138 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:10,000 8-tip program fine 1139 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,640 but in context what does it mean not a 1140 00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,200 lot no because the real research is 1141 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:17,040 happening completely out of sight and 1142 00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,400 it's a thousand times bigger than the 1143 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,960 a-tip program okay that's the second 1144 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,240 thing you need to know third thing you 1145 00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,160 need to know the government made the 1146 00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,480 decision to embargo this issue 1147 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,079 prevent it from being acknowledged 1148 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:30,960 confirmed minimize it being engaged by 1149 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,000 society scientists colleges universities 1150 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:36,400 and to the extent they could without 1151 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,319 taking over the the media a la well 1152 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,640 you know coups uh 1153 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:44,160 keeping an embargo 1154 00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,200 yeah a sophisticated 74-year program 1155 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,640 you don't have a need to know you don't 1156 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,079 have a right to know you can't handle 1157 00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,599 the truth we're not going to tell you if 1158 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,000 you ask us we'll lie or we'll ignore you 1159 00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,319 for 74 years okay 1160 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,000 got to know that that's that's not a 1161 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,119 theory that is a fact so when you get 1162 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:05,280 these three things down in your head and 1163 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,760 you realize these are all facts 1164 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,880 oh did i mention that there's an 1165 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,160 extraterrestrial present yeah that's a 1166 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,520 fact too 1167 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,839 now when you see these things happening 1168 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,359 you start to see them in a different 1169 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,400 light 1170 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,480 it's not like marco rubio just 1171 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,240 discovered 1172 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:22,960 there's extraterrestrials here you know 1173 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,680 or or some air force guy goes 1174 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,040 wow 1175 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,680 uh i had no idea that 1176 00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,119 there were these things flying around 1177 00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:33,839 our aircraft carriers 1178 00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,720 no 1179 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,119 yeah oh again so 1180 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,359 people well then 1181 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,280 okay but then that's not right they 1182 00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:44,000 should acknowledge that they've known or 1183 00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,599 they should acknowledge this not why are 1184 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:47,920 they having to dance around the issue 1185 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,359 yeah because of the truth embargo 1186 00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,359 first of all the truth embargo was still 1187 00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,119 underway 1188 00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,800 and so theoretically they're not 1189 00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:58,720 supposed to do that 1190 00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:01,839 and but as things start to unfold as we 1191 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:04,079 start to extricate out from under the 1192 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,920 truth embargo 1193 00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:08,240 they are having to deal with that 1194 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,960 and if they can't just come out and say 1195 00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,440 yeah we had an improv 1196 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,440 all right here's the deal et's are here 1197 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,760 they can't do that i mean they can but i 1198 00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,599 assure you it will not go well for them 1199 00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:21,680 and so they're having they had to play 1200 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,839 ball during those 74 years the truth 1201 00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,400 embargo was in place and everyone to one 1202 00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,319 degree or another is having to play ball 1203 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,319 as we get out from under the truth 1204 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,960 embargo and by and large 1205 00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,560 you're not going to start getting what 1206 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:36,079 we'll call 1207 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,359 fact 1208 00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,359 clear straightforward answers from 1209 00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,119 anybody 1210 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,520 until after the embargo is over and 1211 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:46,079 we're in the post-disclosure world 1212 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:47,040 then 1213 00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,800 a lot of people are going to be freed up 1214 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,280 and pretty much tell you what's what 1215 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,200 but now before the truth embargo is 1216 00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:56,000 ended i i believe that you will get 1217 00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,520 straight answers from the witnesses that 1218 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,560 are going to appear at these hearings 1219 00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,920 there's no reason for them to lie they 1220 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,599 will tell the truth and if there's 1221 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,960 something they can't talk about they 1222 00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,119 will simply defer to private uh 1223 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,240 classified hearings uh they 1224 00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,839 so we will get some straight answers in 1225 00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:10,960 the hearings 1226 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,520 you nobody is giving a straight answer 1227 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:17,760 they're having to play ball now because 1228 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,640 there is a process underway that is 1229 00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,280 leading to where we need to go and that 1230 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,160 process is more important than them 1231 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,160 being able to be absolutely 1232 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,079 matter-of-fact with the press or you or 1233 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,640 anybody else and i respect that i'm not 1234 00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,800 going to be bitching about that when 1235 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,720 we're getting to the finish line i'm not 1236 00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:38,880 going to be complaining to other runners 1237 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,839 you know you know your shorts are dirty 1238 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,920 you need to get a new top or whatever 1239 00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,200 you would do 1240 00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,800 yeah i'm not going to 1241 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,720 finish the race first and then we can 1242 00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:51,119 complain or criticize each other's uh 1243 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,720 building outfits 1244 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,760 sure 1245 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,359 um 1246 00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,920 you think hearings were to happen you 1247 00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,839 know hard to say i guess but by the end 1248 00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,359 of the year 1249 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,640 or at least 1250 00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,200 it'd be getting close a lot of hoopla 1251 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,000 about it at the very least look 1252 00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:10,160 if is it just a virus 1253 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,599 they have a hearing they can hold it in 1254 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,680 a couple of days right i mean it's not 1255 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,760 hard to do that's why the 1256 00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,040 committee chair says we're going to have 1257 00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,040 a hearing they put the call out to the 1258 00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,800 witnesses they fly them in and they 1259 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:22,319 stick them up on the table that's it 1260 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,119 okay 1261 00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,200 so it's a big deal yeah so let's say 1262 00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,000 that 60 days is now the framework 1263 00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:30,480 so we're talking end of uh september 1264 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,599 early october all right so 1265 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,760 it's possible about 60 days if the 1266 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,880 pandemic 1267 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,319 starts to look better we get over this 1268 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:39,200 surge 1269 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,800 uh one of the chairs could call for 1270 00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:42,400 hearings in early october and it might 1271 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,599 take 10 days to put it together 1272 00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,040 mid-october 1273 00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,560 that's kind of the end of the year but 1274 00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:48,079 it's not december 1275 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:49,040 all right 1276 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,839 uh 1277 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,920 and i can assure you 1278 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,920 they're smart enough to know 1279 00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,160 how big this is 1280 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:58,560 and they need to get it done this year 1281 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,760 for sure because next year is an 1282 00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:04,160 election year and you don't want to be 1283 00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:06,079 having to deal with something of this 1284 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,440 magnitude 1285 00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,280 while you're trying to decide to run or 1286 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,359 not run or be in the primaries or raise 1287 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,880 money or anything else 1288 00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,640 not that not that this issue would 1289 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,560 necessarily hurt them i don't know if it 1290 00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,280 would it probably wouldn't but it's just 1291 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,560 big it's it's like 1292 00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:24,079 if it's right for president you're not 1293 00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,440 gonna that's not gonna be one of your 1294 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:27,680 talking points right now well you would 1295 00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,480 rather have it done i mean look right 1296 00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,839 yeah but it's not a presidential 1297 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,839 elections congressional election and so 1298 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,760 it just they they need they need to get 1299 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,200 these bills done and they need to get 1300 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,640 disclosure done 1301 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,200 so that they will be all campaigning in 1302 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,040 the post-disclosure world the same the 1303 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,760 same situation okay and the issue of 1304 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:47,440 disclosure not disclosure what's your 1305 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,880 opinion of this do you believe et's are 1306 00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,480 here will be moot 1307 00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,160 and they could just focus 1308 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:54,079 on post-disclosure issues and there were 1309 00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,680 plenty of those 1310 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,680 and i will be happy to consult with any 1311 00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,040 of the members of congress to bring them 1312 00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:01,040 up to speed on the subject what do you 1313 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,760 think 1314 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:04,240 we're looking at 1315 00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,200 uh 1316 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:07,280 to help them get up to speed and now i 1317 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,560 have plenty of colleagues with well 1318 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,560 they're happy to do the same because if 1319 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,480 they don't get up to speed and we get 1320 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,480 disclosure this year and they start 1321 00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,400 flapping their lips next year they're 1322 00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,760 going to make rules of themselves and 1323 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,839 that's not a good look for a candidate 1324 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,960 right 1325 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,480 yeah uh 1326 00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,160 need to take care of it now most 1327 00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,640 definitely and whoever is most vocal 1328 00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,119 about it at this point can brag about it 1329 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,119 the most on the election trail you know 1330 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,880 especially if it happens 1331 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:34,800 and it's actually what we need and 1332 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,680 what's 1333 00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,440 you know we think is going to happen 1334 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,599 which is an unveiling to a certain 1335 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:40,800 extent 1336 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,680 that person who was the head and the 1337 00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:45,599 voice of this thing 1338 00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,400 um is looking pretty good so you know we 1339 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,079 were joking about the navy and air force 1340 00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,480 fighting to give us disclosure 1341 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,800 uh these guys should be fighting to have 1342 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,599 the hearings at this point 1343 00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,800 uh that's not their job uh you know 1344 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,040 where's the the the armed services don't 1345 00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,200 put out no no no no 1346 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,599 congress oh congress yeah yeah yeah no 1347 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:09,760 well they don't need to fight that's the 1348 00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,400 beauty of the hearing process yeah any 1349 00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,480 committee chair can call hearing any 1350 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:16,000 time doesn't need permission from 1351 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,520 anybody to have to fight anybody 1352 00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,200 basically we're having a hearing and the 1353 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,880 other members the committee could say 1354 00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:22,240 i don't want to do that because they 1355 00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,599 tough 1356 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,640 so 1357 00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:27,040 and you might say well if it's that easy 1358 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,119 why hasn't there been lots of hearings 1359 00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,280 since 1968 1360 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,200 truth embargo the truth embargo has been 1361 00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,400 very effective 1362 00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:35,760 so effective 1363 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,520 effective that 1364 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,280 not a single committee now i know 1365 00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:41,040 there's some some some attempts to get 1366 00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:42,160 hearings 1367 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,599 including some committee chairs that 1368 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,880 were approached 1369 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,559 but the truth embargo was effective 1370 00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,280 enough that not a single 1371 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,960 member of a committee 1372 00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,720 capable of holding hearings meaning i 1373 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:54,079 had the clout 1374 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:55,359 has done it 1375 00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,880 since 1968 and so that so again don't 1376 00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,880 underestimate how effective the truth 1377 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,559 embargo was it was extraordinarily 1378 00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,520 effective 1379 00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,359 yeah well i mean we're here yeah it 1380 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,079 seems like it it's just um 1381 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,920 it's time to put the power back in our 1382 00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,599 own hands right who are they to have 1383 00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,200 this truth over us that's not fair 1384 00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,119 there's more of us than them 1385 00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,040 so if we can stay positive and keep 1386 00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,680 working and we have you 1387 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,200 to keep us happy 1388 00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,800 i think we're good we're looking pretty 1389 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,319 good 1390 00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,640 that's my job to keep people happy i 1391 00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:28,960 like the condescending steve i don't 1392 00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,240 know why i don't know why it plays off 1393 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,920 my dry sense of humor 1394 00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,400 um which is similar to my sense of humor 1395 00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:38,079 by the way i must tell you i mean we 1396 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,839 could do we could do a dual act at the 1397 00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,680 comedy store i think we could do well 1398 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,520 i'm in it i did stand up when i was a 1399 00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,440 kid at my church youth group but i 1400 00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:47,280 didn't have any jokes so i just ripped 1401 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,069 and you didn't make it oh come on man 1402 00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,599 really there must have been a producer 1403 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:57,440 from some show there i mean for crying 1404 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,040 out loud not at church group okay 1405 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,119 you could you could 16 and stand up in 1406 00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,720 front of a church youth group you could 1407 00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,240 have been a professional 1408 00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:08,319 because i was doing that since i was a 1409 00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:09,440 kid yeah 1410 00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,549 steve here here's a good one uh with 1411 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:16,720 your experience how could this political 1412 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:19,760 and social process still go wrong 1413 00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:22,800 first of all i'd say humans have the 1414 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,960 enact ability to fixate on 1415 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,200 fear in the worst case scenario 1416 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,960 so i would say 1417 00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:33,040 uh level that out there's so many ways 1418 00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:34,640 this can go wrong right 1419 00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:38,800 but it's not going to so uh well 1420 00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,079 look uh i'm not going to be that i i 1421 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,270 look there there are 1422 00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,240 there's two kinds of go wrong 1423 00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:52,960 one go wrong is that 1424 00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:56,880 people within government 1425 00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,520 develop and uh institute a really big 1426 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:01,839 pushback and start screwing around with 1427 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:04,640 the system and whatever to block it 1428 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:06,880 another way is that the people that are 1429 00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,960 really part of the process start doing 1430 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:10,880 really stupid things 1431 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,160 and kind of undermine their own uh 1432 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,319 progress like again snatching 1433 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:18,880 uh defeat from the jaws of victory 1434 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,000 and i don't see that happening at all so 1435 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,920 i think we're good there but there's 1436 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,920 some other ways things go wrong and 1437 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:27,920 unfortunately that that is just the 1438 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,880 nature of the human condition 1439 00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,400 uh so 1440 00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,359 on the list of those things 1441 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,040 uh 1442 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,839 there's at least a good half dozen 1443 00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,839 maybe more 1444 00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:43,839 hot spots in the world right now that 1445 00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:46,240 could open a ward anytime 1446 00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,119 yeah 1447 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:48,960 uh a serious war 1448 00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,280 uh this issue is going to get sidelined 1449 00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:52,720 i'm sorry 1450 00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,079 uh now i'm not talking about some 1451 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,000 skirmish i'm talking about a serious war 1452 00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,040 right another israel uh arab war 1453 00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:01,680 a serious conflict in the south china 1454 00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,880 sea 1455 00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,599 uh and and i can name others 1456 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,240 uh because wars what we do 1457 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,480 i think throughout the galaxy i think 1458 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,960 the uh human race is known for 1459 00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,319 uh 1460 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:16,319 war guys you know that's what they do 1461 00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,990 these guys are into it big they're 1462 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:23,760 really big into war you know like 1463 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,559 somebody is really big into baseball or 1464 00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,400 nhl or whatever the hell 1465 00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:30,880 uh we're into it we're good at it we've 1466 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,400 been uh honing our skills for at least 1467 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:36,240 10 000 years 1468 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:37,040 uh 1469 00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,960 we we're still doing it 1470 00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:41,839 damn 1471 00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,640 they're now using b-52s to try to push 1472 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,200 back the taliban i don't want to be 1473 00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,720 critical 1474 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,240 but though 1475 00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,440 my my i've lived long enough to know 1476 00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,240 that b-52s are not exactly the most 1477 00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:59,520 precise way to how would you say 1478 00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,720 inflict 1479 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,640 uh 1480 00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:05,359 laser-like damage surgical damage on the 1481 00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,359 ground sure so uh there we have it now 1482 00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,359 this was just announced i'm waiting for 1483 00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,280 the pushback on this 1484 00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:15,839 uh but i would like to put a shout out 1485 00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,800 to joe 1486 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:18,319 uh joe 1487 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,119 uh 1488 00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:21,280 you seem like a good guy you're kind of 1489 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:23,040 a centrist giving the left a little 1490 00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,920 action 1491 00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:26,079 that's nice that's good 1492 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,880 but if you think the b52 thing is going 1493 00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,480 to work for you 1494 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,960 you really need to take more five hour 1495 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,880 energy drinks in the morning because 1496 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,440 it's not it's a huge mistake 1497 00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:39,359 and so yeah 1498 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:42,800 uh there are a lot of ways that we could 1499 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,480 blow this up along those lines 1500 00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,400 uh and uh 1501 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,559 and i and why do i say why bother to say 1502 00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,240 this why bother to bring it up at all 1503 00:53:55,829 --> 00:53:53,920 i'll tell you why 1504 00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,839 because it is that 1505 00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,040 aspect 1506 00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,359 of this unfolding history 1507 00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,119 that should be 1508 00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:03,599 burned into the brain of every committee 1509 00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:04,640 chair 1510 00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,000 in the congress 1511 00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:08,000 as well as every supporter of this issue 1512 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,240 within the dod or the army of the navy 1513 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,400 the air force 1514 00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,720 get this done now 1515 00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,800 stop dragging your feet 1516 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,480 because somebody is going to blow 1517 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,400 something up somewhere don't you know 1518 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:21,839 don't you get that you haven't lived 1519 00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,240 long enough to know that so get it done 1520 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,240 once you get it done then we're in the 1521 00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,079 post-disclosure world then people could 1522 00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:29,920 blow something up and it won't end it 1523 00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,319 won't it won't stop our progress on this 1524 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,319 it will not it will we'll still be in 1525 00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,720 the post-disclosure world sure all right 1526 00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:39,200 i i know this may sound complex to some 1527 00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:42,640 people but it's really very simple 1528 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,720 yeah get it done now you have delayed it 1529 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,520 for 34 1530 00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,880 30 years rather 30 years after the end 1531 00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,520 of the cold war which is when we sort of 1532 00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,839 got back to normal and started to think 1533 00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,119 like we wouldn't blow ourselves up 1534 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,839 anymore and so the time to do it and it 1535 00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,760 could have happened in the 1990s but 1536 00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:05,440 they blocked it 1537 00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,160 and now we're 30 years into the post 1538 00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,760 cold war era 1539 00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:11,440 and we still haven't acknowledged 1540 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,799 something they knew in 1947 1541 00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,040 and the weapons are bigger and badder 1542 00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,520 and faster and there's seven billion 1543 00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,880 people instead of three and a half 1544 00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,040 billion people and we're running out of 1545 00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:25,599 water and fish and god knows what else 1546 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:27,280 and you want to kick the can down the 1547 00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,640 road some more 1548 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,319 meaning like another paradigm shift 1549 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:32,240 without magnitude now okay it'll mess 1550 00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:34,079 anything up mess anything up worse than 1551 00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,359 what yeah then we have yeah so again 1552 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,119 that's why i bring that up all right i 1553 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,839 bring it up to be a pain in the ass yeah 1554 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,520 well you should bring that up because 1555 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,520 the war is also 1556 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,200 uh first think of the stuff like the 1557 00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,920 pentagon papers you know 1558 00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:51,040 awful 1559 00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,720 course yeah and that brings up that 1560 00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,160 brings up a little something i like to 1561 00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:58,480 say because i'm i'm working on this i 1562 00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:59,839 may use it again on jimmy he won't give 1563 00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,839 a [\h__\h] 1564 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,400 uh 1565 00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:04,960 there's this famous fable which is one 1566 00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:07,680 of the most uh repeated and known fables 1567 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,400 in the world because it's just a classic 1568 00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,440 it goes back to the middle ages 1569 00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,960 it turned up initially in groom's fairy 1570 00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,880 tales and it's about the boy who called 1571 00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,559 look cried wolf 1572 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,720 in the original story the boy keeps 1573 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,359 playing a prank on the on the villagers 1574 00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,440 crying room they'll rush out there and 1575 00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,880 you know he's he's there getting some 1576 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:29,359 attention and he's i you know i i 1577 00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,720 thought i saw him 1578 00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,319 and they'd go home 1579 00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,799 he did it again and he came out and he 1580 00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,359 did it again and they come again and now 1581 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,359 they're really pissed 1582 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:41,440 so the fourth time the wolf pack shows 1583 00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,400 up 1584 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,240 man in the fable it's a wolf but they 1585 00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,040 they run in packs okay right and the guy 1586 00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:49,359 he's crying 1587 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,040 and the villagers say screw you 1588 00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,520 and in the fable then the wolf pack eats 1589 00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,359 the sheep 1590 00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,920 okay that's great fable everybody gets 1591 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:01,440 it don't they they totally get it really 1592 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,480 cool 1593 00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,240 now what a lot of your 1594 00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,559 viewers may not know is that there was 1595 00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,079 another version a little later in the 1596 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,559 medieval mid ages that came out a 1597 00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,480 slightly different one in which the boy 1598 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:14,079 does the wolf thing and the daddy come 1599 00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,520 out and go back and then the wolf pack 1600 00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,960 shows up the fourth time and he cries 1601 00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:18,000 wolf 1602 00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:18,720 but 1603 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,559 the villagers don't come out 1604 00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,480 and the wolf pack eats the sheep 1605 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:24,160 and the boy 1606 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:27,760 okay that was the the later verb 1607 00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,720 okay now let's bring this up to the 21st 1608 00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,119 century where everything is done on a 1609 00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:35,599 grander scale i guess you could say all 1610 00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,599 right more intense 1611 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:39,599 so in the fable in the version of the 1612 00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,960 fable that we're going to be dealing 1613 00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,799 with 1614 00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,119 uh the boy cries wolf 1615 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,920 and joking christ wolf again oh thanks 1616 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,359 for coming out and i don't see him the 1617 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,760 wolf seems to be gone tries again 1618 00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,440 and then finally the fourth time that 1619 00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,280 wolfpack shows up and he's yelling god 1620 00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,200 has to look back and the people go ah 1621 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,119 screw you 1622 00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:01,520 and what happens next is the wolf pack 1623 00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,799 eats the 1624 00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,839 sheep 1625 00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,040 the boy 1626 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,400 and everybody in the village 1627 00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,400 you following me here 1628 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,799 yeah all right okay now let me let me 1629 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,160 let's let's uh 1630 00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,280 let's uh uh now interpret that 1631 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:19,520 in modern terms some of you didn't get 1632 00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,880 it the first time it's okay i'm gonna 1633 00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:23,200 spell it out for you vividly unpack it 1634 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,240 please 1635 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,400 now i'm just i'm i'm just selecting some 1636 00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:27,920 things here there are many i could 1637 00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,280 select but let's let's look at it 1638 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,079 united states government said 1639 00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:35,520 our ships were attacked to the gulf of 1640 00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,799 tonkin 1641 00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,880 by pt boats tried to sink them this is 1642 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,280 outrageous unacceptable it's north korea 1643 00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:43,359 okay not earth great north vietnam 1644 00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:46,000 we need to escalate we're gonna have to 1645 00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,119 you know bomb 1646 00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:49,119 north vietnam we're gonna have to get 1647 00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:50,640 going we need several hundred thousand 1648 00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,200 more troops blah blah blah and off we go 1649 00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:56,319 and then years later we discover well no 1650 00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:59,599 really it wasn't like that 1651 00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:02,079 yeah okay years go by 1652 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:05,520 oh god says look there's 1653 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,760 mass destruction in iraq 1654 00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,040 i mean they said it over and over and 1655 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,280 over and over and over again right yeah 1656 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,880 we have to think action look rock didn't 1657 00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,400 have really anything to do with 9-1-1 1658 00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:16,079 but you know they've got weapons of mass 1659 00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,240 destruction and you know and that could 1660 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,799 spread whatever and they go in 1661 00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:23,280 and then not too long after that what 1662 00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:24,559 happened 1663 00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,760 no 1664 00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:27,920 they went over 1665 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:29,280 so sorry 1666 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,400 yeah we were sled wolf 1667 00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,680 okay 1668 00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,440 now 1669 00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,319 let's talk about the et issue 1670 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,559 bt issue they've been lying about for 74 1671 00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:42,960 years every day not just 1672 00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,839 no the 1673 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,680 the the the vietnam war had a couple of 1674 00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,920 lies specific to that time the iraq war 1675 00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,160 had several lies specific to that time 1676 00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,119 the e.t issue has been a lie for 74 1677 00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:55,520 years every day it is a continuous lie 1678 00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:58,160 it's not a lie no no they have to keep 1679 01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:59,200 lying 1680 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,799 over and over and over and over and over 1681 01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,400 again 1682 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:04,160 and 1683 01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:07,200 that's a big lie woof 1684 01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:08,160 okay 1685 01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:12,829 when you do 1686 01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,319 that then something really comes along 1687 01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,760 when you need to get the people's 1688 01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:19,040 attention 1689 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:20,640 right 1690 01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:23,599 in other words believe me 1691 01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:26,400 you need to act now 1692 01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:29,440 you need to respond this is really 1693 01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:33,750 what do you think the villagers are 1694 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,200 going to do 1695 01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,559 they're going to say screw you 1696 01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:40,640 and so 1697 01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:41,520 if 1698 01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,799 the government's 1699 01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:45,440 not you not united nations are right 1700 01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:46,880 particularly the us government is right 1701 01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,440 about the threat of global warming 1702 01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:51,440 and they are going to the people and say 1703 01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:54,799 please believe me like uh 1704 01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:57,040 al gore did who was a course notable 1705 01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:58,480 politician 1706 01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:00,640 please believe me 1707 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:03,520 you must take we must take action 1708 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:07,280 the villagers are saying screw you 1709 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,960 and then along comes a pandemic 1710 01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,799 really big problem 1711 01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,160 and the government comes to the people 1712 01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:16,240 and says believe us 1713 01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:18,400 you need to take this action in that 1714 01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,359 action 1715 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,280 and the government is shocked that the 1716 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:23,440 people are saying screw 1717 01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:24,480 you 1718 01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:31,599 it's not the the the the the wolf's 1719 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:32,480 you know 1720 01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,760 come the fourth time and then they eat 1721 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:35,359 the sheep 1722 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:38,400 everybody gets eaten 1723 01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,680 all right and so 1724 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,680 the villagers are going to get eaten the 1725 01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:45,119 government that's crying woof is going 1726 01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:46,319 to get eaten 1727 01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:47,440 all right 1728 01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:48,240 and 1729 01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:49,839 whoever the sheep are 1730 01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,440 take a pic they're going to get eaten so 1731 01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:55,039 a lot of people are not 1732 01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:58,000 properly appreciative of this fact 1733 01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:59,280 that 1734 01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:02,079 governments got into the lying business 1735 01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:03,680 which you can get away with if you're a 1736 01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:06,000 king or an emperor or an absolute 1737 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:07,920 dictator when you can just shoot anybody 1738 01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:09,920 that's irritated with you 1739 01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:13,440 but in in endemic democracies lying is 1740 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,039 poison 1741 01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,079 you know and sometimes you take the 1742 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,599 first two shots it doesn't kill you but 1743 01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:21,440 the third one does 1744 01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,480 so 1745 01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,799 they have been lying on a grand scale on 1746 01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:26,400 numerous times and now they're 1747 01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,359 incredibly upset that the people are not 1748 01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:31,599 believing them 1749 01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:34,960 and you may say well so what hey 1750 01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:36,319 guess what 1751 01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,430 in the not too distant future the entire 1752 01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:43,200 state of california will be on fire and 1753 01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,960 they're all going to have to move to the 1754 01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:46,480 midwest and the midwest is going to be 1755 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:48,640 very upset about that what the hell is 1756 01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,880 20 million californians doing moving 1757 01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:52,559 into my state 1758 01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,630 what's going on you're still talking 1759 01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:02,559 that's awesome what happened you went to 1760 01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,240 the bathroom no the my the stream yard 1761 01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,720 uh is not working every other well i was 1762 01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:10,559 i was talking through nothing i was 1763 01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:12,640 talking to nothing for a while yeah you 1764 01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:14,000 did how long 1765 01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:14,839 how 1766 01:03:19,390 --> 01:03:18,799 long like 30 miles like you cut off my 1767 01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,400 mic 1768 01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:21,760 [Laughter] 1769 01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:23,839 like 30 minutes you were just talking 1770 01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,870 so i'm not sure what's going on here 1771 01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:30,960 with the all the other everything's 1772 01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,640 working but stream yards so i'm not 1773 01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,440 really sure so hang on why if streaming 1774 01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,599 is not working why am i showing on my 1775 01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:38,880 screen and everything 1776 01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:41,359 uh well it's just not working for me 1777 01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:44,240 so you're not you're not seeing me uh 1778 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,839 this is on my phone 1779 01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,359 so uh 1780 01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:49,599 on your phone man 1781 01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:52,559 on your computer not your phone no no no 1782 01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:57,910 yeah i didn't want to leave you hanging 1783 01:04:02,230 --> 01:04:00,079 so i popped up my phone quick 1784 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:02,240 so we have no idea this was one of the 1785 01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:04,720 great analogies of my entire career 1786 01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:06,000 right there i mean 1787 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:09,119 i was rolling man uh uh and we have no 1788 01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,640 idea 1789 01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,559 where i and where that went well i'll 1790 01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:14,319 tell you what it was fake 1791 01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:20,789 okay so ask me something else so we can 1792 01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:21,920 move on 1793 01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:22,960 okay 1794 01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:24,319 um 1795 01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,480 i'll ask you 1796 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,599 because i got to figure out this 1797 01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,000 internet stuff before my next interview 1798 01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:32,240 so i'll ask you one 1799 01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:37,510 um 1800 01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:40,559 how do i look so young this old go ahead 1801 01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:43,359 do you think that do you think the et's 1802 01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:50,069 interesting question 1803 01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:51,359 uh 1804 01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:53,920 if you if you read a reasonable number 1805 01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:56,640 of accounts of contact abducted 1806 01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,640 abduction whatever you want to call it 1807 01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:00,559 uh and there have been hundreds and 1808 01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:02,000 hundreds of thousands of these that have 1809 01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:03,440 been submitted 1810 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,960 people don't know that they don't 1811 01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:06,720 realize that only a very small portion 1812 01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:08,079 of the contact accounts have actually 1813 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,000 been researched who knows got the money 1814 01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:12,000 to research 500 000 1815 01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:14,319 contact reports which go in in emails to 1816 01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:16,160 researchers and letters or what have you 1817 01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,680 but if you read a number of them you 1818 01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,599 discover is that 1819 01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,599 often time a person who is in the 1820 01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,200 presence of the et's does have the 1821 01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:24,400 ability to 1822 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,760 to speak 1823 01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:27,760 or even move around sometimes they can't 1824 01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:29,200 do anything they just lie there on the 1825 01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:30,799 table frozen you know 1826 01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:35,039 like that that's true uh and so 1827 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:36,960 if you were just a regular person and 1828 01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:38,720 you're you're you find that you can talk 1829 01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:40,319 and you're there in the craft 1830 01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:42,240 and you got an opportunity 1831 01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,200 you know 1832 01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:45,760 naturally you're thinking ask something 1833 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,640 right and what would you ask okay 1834 01:05:51,670 --> 01:05:50,240 you know and and i'm sure that there's 1835 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:51,680 some some 1836 01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:55,760 what do you think about the cubs in the 1837 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,680 series yeah i mean 1838 01:06:01,910 --> 01:05:59,760 not me 1839 01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:01,920 but not not surprisingly what a lot of 1840 01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:04,799 people ask often is do you believe in 1841 01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:05,920 god 1842 01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:13,270 and i have never read an instance of 1843 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:16,880 that when the et's did not respond yes 1844 01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,160 really yeah 1845 01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,400 that's notable just put a little 1846 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,200 you know put a pin in there 1847 01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,200 are the et's 1848 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:29,760 actually saying that yeah as fast as we 1849 01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,640 are 1850 01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,720 we we actually believe there's a god or 1851 01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,039 or we we know there is a god or are they 1852 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:37,039 just humoring this poor person that's 1853 01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:39,680 scared out of their mind 1854 01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:41,359 around in this in the saucer in their 1855 01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:42,240 socks 1856 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:44,000 that's okay there's a gun 1857 01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:45,680 the commas are half off and they're just 1858 01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,039 trying to calm them down so yeah you 1859 01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:48,960 know give them an answer they like 1860 01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,319 right like you know do you think the 1861 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:52,000 cubs will make the series absolutely the 1862 01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,520 cubs that only make the series but 1863 01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,960 they're going to win the world shirt so 1864 01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,319 it's like uh 1865 01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,160 uh i don't know 1866 01:07:02,069 --> 01:07:00,240 but that's that's the only answer i have 1867 01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,079 for that question that makes any sense 1868 01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:04,079 uh that's good i thought i'd give it to 1869 01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:04,799 you 1870 01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:13,760 because they were liking it and then i 1871 01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:15,280 somehow got my connection back and 1872 01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:17,839 screwed it up so okay 1873 01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:19,440 where the hell i was when the connection 1874 01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,640 went off 1875 01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:22,400 yeah i asked something tell you what 1876 01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:24,079 where i was when the connection ended 1877 01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:25,680 they can hear you they could hear you 1878 01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:27,599 the whole time so you're the whole park 1879 01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,079 yeah okay okay good in other words the 1880 01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:31,920 screw up was just with you 1881 01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,640 yeah it's the usual the professional but 1882 01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:36,640 the the audience they they're totally in 1883 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:38,720 control they're working okay yeah okay 1884 01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,920 so yeah the the punch line to this is 1885 01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,440 this 1886 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:45,440 that 1887 01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:46,880 the government needs to finally 1888 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:48,799 understand 1889 01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:52,160 that lying to the public 1890 01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:53,920 doesn't work 1891 01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:55,839 there's a tremendous price to be paid 1892 01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,880 for it 1893 01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,039 something that it may be a short-term 1894 01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:01,599 thing meaning lying right now is helpful 1895 01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,039 i really want to send a half a million 1896 01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:05,839 troops to vietnam and by lying now in 1897 01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:08,000 the short term i get what i want i get 1898 01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:09,200 to send a half a million trips to 1899 01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,400 vietnam 1900 01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,280 long term it doesn't work out so well 1901 01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,119 uh and in fact it can work out really 1902 01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:16,960 really badly 1903 01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,000 like the like the boy in the in the in 1904 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,560 the in the uh fairy tale 1905 01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:24,560 uh the sheep get eaten 1906 01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:26,880 he gets eaten and the entire town gets 1907 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,120 eaten okay that's bad 1908 01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,880 so 1909 01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,279 the the full analogy 1910 01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:35,040 take it to its extreme 1911 01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,400 all right 1912 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,400 as you lie to the public you lie to the 1913 01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,319 public you lie to the public and then 1914 01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:41,920 you come back and they need you need 1915 01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:44,239 them to do something and they tell you 1916 01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,159 to go to hell 1917 01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:47,759 now it could be about global warming 1918 01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:50,239 it's a fairly slow process it takes a 1919 01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,000 while it's not like everybody's going to 1920 01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,560 drown tomorrow but now there's going to 1921 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,319 be chaos okay 1922 01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,799 it could be about pandemics 1923 01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,799 not everybody's going to die from any 1924 01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:02,560 particular pandemic 1925 01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:04,880 the human race will go on 1926 01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,920 but still a lot may die so it's uh 1927 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,440 a lot of the village 1928 01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,960 gets eaten 1929 01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:12,719 okay 1930 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:15,359 then there's another bugaboo 1931 01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,640 all right 1932 01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,920 nuclear 1933 01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:19,520 war 1934 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:23,600 now they lied about nuclear weapons many 1935 01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:24,640 times 1936 01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,080 okay 1937 01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:29,040 kennedy lied about how uh how powerful 1938 01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,319 the nuclear 1939 01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:32,719 nuclear weapons situation was 1940 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,359 in russia soviet union in order to get 1941 01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,120 elected and then admitted later that he 1942 01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:39,520 overstated it deliberately 1943 01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:42,719 uh we have lied about other things 1944 01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:43,600 and 1945 01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:47,359 we undermine trust in government 1946 01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:48,480 okay 1947 01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:51,679 not only to our own citizens 1948 01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,320 but to other nations 1949 01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:56,000 because when you lie to your people 1950 01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,760 because of the modern communication 1951 01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:59,120 system now 1952 01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:00,960 the rest of the world knows your life 1953 01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,640 now maybe you're lying to the people but 1954 01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:04,000 they're getting it you're lying to your 1955 01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,040 own people 1956 01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:06,960 would you lie to us 1957 01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:09,360 us russians us chinese of course you 1958 01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,880 would probably 1959 01:10:14,830 --> 01:10:11,679 okay 1960 01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:14,840 all right and so hmm 1961 01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:17,840 so they don't trust you 1962 01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,360 and if you can't if you don't have the 1963 01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,280 trust of other nations 1964 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,360 they will take the necessary measures to 1965 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,440 protect themselves against you lying son 1966 01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:26,960 of a [\h__\h] 1967 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:28,080 all right 1968 01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:31,040 and so when we lied about the gulf of 1969 01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,960 tong kin 1970 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,880 which the chinese eventually learned 1971 01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:36,239 that we did 1972 01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,080 which resulted in us 1973 01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:41,120 going big into vietnam 1974 01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:42,960 where we dropped 1975 01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:46,960 hundreds of thousands of tons of bombs 1976 01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,760 on north vietnam 1977 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,840 which happens to be right up against the 1978 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:53,440 chinese border 1979 01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:55,600 it's like next door 1980 01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:58,400 and so you're a chinese person or a 1981 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:00,560 chinese head of state and you're going 1982 01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,000 hmm america lied about uh the dolphin 1983 01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:05,920 ken escalated the war and is now 1984 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,960 dropping bombs just over the hill here 1985 01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,880 lots of bombs 1986 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:12,960 do you think that nation is going to be 1987 01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,719 really keen on 1988 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:17,040 nuclear arms reductions 1989 01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,719 get rid of the nukes so that we don't 1990 01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:20,960 end up blowing ourselves up no they're 1991 01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,480 not and so as a result 1992 01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:27,600 30 years after the end of the cold war 1993 01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:30,560 we are closer to nuclear war than we 1994 01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,679 were then or even closer than we were in 1995 01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:35,600 the cuban missile crisis if you don't 1996 01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,440 believe me ask the bulletin of atomic 1997 01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,840 scientists who recently parked the 1998 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:41,440 doomsday clock in 100 seconds to 1999 01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,480 midnight 2000 01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:44,080 and this is not something they do for a 2001 01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:45,199 hobby 2002 01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,560 this is not something they do to get 2003 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,080 press i mean they do do it to get 2004 01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:50,320 attention but they're not they're not 2005 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:51,600 just moving that clock closer to 2006 01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:52,880 midnight because they think it'll get 2007 01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,440 some action no they believe that and i 2008 01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:57,600 happen to believe they're right 2009 01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:01,679 and so the boy who called wolf 2010 01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:04,000 in this scenario is like the version 2011 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:05,679 that i talked about 2012 01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,320 you lie you lie you lie and then you 2013 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:10,640 can't get what you desperately need and 2014 01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,000 then everybody dies 2015 01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,280 okay i mean let me make this clear 2016 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:19,679 the biggest threat to the human race but 2017 01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,640 now 2018 01:12:24,830 --> 01:12:22,400 is not global warming 2019 01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:24,840 it is not an asteroid it is not 2020 01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,040 extraterrestrials it is nuclear weapons 2021 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,679 and count the number of times a 2022 01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:34,080 politician in the united states or the 2023 01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:35,280 uk 2024 01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,600 in any election going back the next last 2025 01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:39,679 12 years where they brought up in a 2026 01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:40,719 serious 2027 01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,920 manner the nuclear weapons issue they 2028 01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,000 don't even discuss it anymore there have 2029 01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:48,560 been more nuclear arms limitations talks 2030 01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:53,910 it's not 2031 01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:55,280 trivial 2032 01:13:02,470 --> 01:12:57,600 at all and one of the one of the things 2033 01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,480 that i'm most intensely engaged with 2034 01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,880 is that the most significant thing that 2035 01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:06,719 extraterrestrials have done in the 2036 01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,679 modern era since 70 says 47 2037 01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,239 is not abducting travis walton because i 2038 01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:16,400 love travis and you know it was a big 2039 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:17,920 deal for him but that's not the biggest 2040 01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:20,400 one the biggest thing that the ets have 2041 01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:21,360 done 2042 01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,159 is 2043 01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:24,800 turning off nuclear weapons in the 2044 01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,960 united states and the soviet union and 2045 01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,080 in russia 2046 01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,000 turn them off and turning them on we 2047 01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,960 call it nuclear weapons tampering 2048 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:35,120 now if i'm a member of congress or a 2049 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,480 member of the washington post the new 2050 01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,199 york times and i'm not charged up about 2051 01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:41,280 that i need to become something else 2052 01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:43,280 than a journalist or a politician and if 2053 01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:45,440 i'm a citizen of the united states 2054 01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:48,239 i should be paying real close 2055 01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:49,360 to that 2056 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,320 all right 2057 01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,640 you've got a greater nuclear threat than 2058 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,120 ever and you've got an et engagement 2059 01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,400 where they keep turning our nuclear 2060 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,640 weapons off i think we need to have some 2061 01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,400 hearings on that what do you think 2062 01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:02,480 uh yeah if somebody can control your 2063 01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:05,920 most powerful weapon that you have 2064 01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,239 which could destroy the world 2065 01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:09,840 uh that's not cool because who knows 2066 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,189 yeah but what we know is this 2067 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:17,120 they're not destroying the weapons in 2068 01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:20,560 order to to let let us know that we can 2069 01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:22,719 mess with you we already know that 2070 01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,320 they're destroying those weapons and 2071 01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,159 most of the witnesses agree 2072 01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,640 to let us know what in the hell are you 2073 01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:30,239 doing 2074 01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,239 okay you know and and i and i and i seem 2075 01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,400 to be striving about this 2076 01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:38,159 but do you realize that we've almost had 2077 01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:40,840 a nuclear war about six times and since 2078 01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,600 1947 and people just blow it off it's 2079 01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:46,320 like my god if the kid if the kid 2080 01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:47,679 goes into the deep end of the pool the 2081 01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:50,000 mother jumps up and down and goes crazy 2082 01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:51,520 but the fact that we're we can have a 2083 01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,960 nuclear war tomorrow it's like hey you 2084 01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:53,760 know 2085 01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:56,080 things happen 2086 01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,600 they say everybody's got them so no 2087 01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:59,199 one's going to use them 2088 01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:01,920 uh yeah you know yeah that's kind of 2089 01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,270 this is getting into the deep end of the 2090 01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:09,600 pool i'll go back to that analogy 2091 01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,159 and uh and uh but i'm just trying to 2092 01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:14,480 point out folks that what's going on now 2093 01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,480 these hearings the issues involved are 2094 01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:18,159 bigger than anything you've ever 2095 01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:19,920 experienced in your lifetime 2096 01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,199 all right bigger than world war one 2097 01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,560 world war ii 2098 01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:24,080 bigger than the space race bigger than 2099 01:15:27,910 --> 01:15:25,600 landing on the moon bigger than the 2100 01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:27,920 pandemic bigger than the political 2101 01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:29,920 parties okay 2102 01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,360 uh and so 2103 01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:33,760 we really would invite your 2104 01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:35,920 uh uh full attention 2105 01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,480 on this and your support for 2106 01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,840 congressional hearings and by the way 2107 01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:41,440 this is the first interview i've ever 2108 01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,640 done 2109 01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:43,920 where the 2110 01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:47,199 host was completely mobile 2111 01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:50,080 and getting the hearing on the move 2112 01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:51,520 right 2113 01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:53,280 this is the first okay 2114 01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,560 i think you were in three different 2115 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,880 rooms there 2116 01:16:02,229 --> 01:15:59,280 okay but let's buy the routers it turns 2117 01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,239 out we have a huge storm going on 2118 01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:04,320 outside this office so then the hell 2119 01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,760 outside let's do it right get out there 2120 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,760 i want some rain i want us to be 2121 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:12,320 dripping wet let's build it man that's 2122 01:16:16,550 --> 01:16:13,250 right 2123 01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:16,560 [Laughter] 2124 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:19,520 folks which is why we can do this 2125 01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:22,239 it looks like a pretty good thing 2126 01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:24,800 oh [\h__\h] oh don't don't destroy your 2127 01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:30,470 okay if if sean gets struck by lightning 2128 01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:32,800 this will be a podcast first 2129 01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:39,669 so that could be what my internet went 2130 01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,440 down 2131 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:44,800 hey hey act of god man act of god 2132 01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,080 i i appreciate your uh your resilience 2133 01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:50,560 your flexibility your creativity 2134 01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:53,760 your fears i appreciate everything 2135 01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:56,000 i think you're gonna be star 2136 01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:57,520 thanks for hanging in there with me i 2137 01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:00,080 apologize uh the storm came 2138 01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:02,480 and uh set me out i was freaking out for 2139 01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,239 a second but 2140 01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,040 i'm glad uh we rebounded yeah there'll 2141 01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:08,880 be a flash flood it'll be flash flood in 2142 01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:10,000 about an hour and a half but other than 2143 01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:12,000 that things will be fine okay you got 2144 01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:13,440 any more questions you want to wrap this 2145 01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,040 up and get ready for ross 2146 01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:17,679 yeah yeah let's wrap this up so i can 2147 01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:20,239 see what the hell uh this storm is gonna 2148 01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,080 do to me tonight so 2149 01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,239 yeah let me tell you something sean 2150 01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:26,960 just because you mentioned that before 2151 01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:29,040 anytime i wanted to stand up i could do 2152 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,360 it i could walk down to the comedy club 2153 01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,360 and do it but i haven't got the guts 2154 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:35,120 i've got the ability i don't the guts 2155 01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:36,800 because doing real stand up in front of 2156 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:39,199 people to pay to see you make them laugh 2157 01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,390 you know gratis right when nobody 2158 01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,040 expects anything i can do it right 2159 01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:51,120 exactly 2160 01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,800 so uh uh uh good luck godspeed in my 2161 01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,960 regards to ross he's really a 2162 01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,480 top-of-the-line guy and he's doing 2163 01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,880 tremendous work even though he has to 2164 01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:02,800 fly from australia to do it i don't know 2165 01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:05,520 how that works 2166 01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:07,679 ross coulther everybody else in media in 2167 01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:10,719 australia needs any gravity drive badly 2168 01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,400 so they can zip on the united states in 2169 01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:14,080 about 20 minutes get some good news and 2170 01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:15,360 take it back 2171 01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,679 having to fly from sydney to l.a in 2172 01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:19,360 order to get a story 2173 01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:21,440 i'm sorry i ain't going there 2174 01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:22,320 yeah 2175 01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:24,560 okay well he did a great job it was 2176 01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:28,000 totally worth it so okay yeah thank you 2177 01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:30,000 so much for doing this don't forget to 2178 01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,280 tell jimmy about that video 20 minutes 2179 01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:35,360 i'm giving it a lot of serious thought 2180 01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,880 okay 2181 01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:38,560 right 2182 01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:40,800 bye bye take care 2183 01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,520 out 2184 01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:42,960 all right 2185 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:47,040 that yeah we have a huge storm going on 2186 01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:49,280 outside so that's why my internet went 2187 01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:53,280 down and i'd use my phone so i am going 2188 01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:56,480 to hopefully get this working before 2189 01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,199 coal heart comes back but there's not 2190 01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:01,600 you know a lot i can do 2191 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,080 um because the weather controls that but 2192 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:06,480 at the very least i got my phone so uh 2193 01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,560 we'll do it that way but 2194 01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:10,640 i appreciate you 2195 01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:13,679 um and yeah i went out in the rain and 2196 01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:16,159 stormed and got soaked 2197 01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:18,239 pristine bassett